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The Carnethy lnterview - Curly Mills
One of the highlights of the Club year is the Scottish Islands Peaks Race. Investment of competitors, and marshals for the running part of the race is considerable – and very enjoyable. Nick Macdonald, the Committee and the marshalling team leaders put in a lot of time and effort before and during the Event. When you book in a t MacTavish's Kitchen in Oban and see Barbara Mills organising the Registration and sorting out all the last minute problems, this is the culmination of a year of hard work on your behalf. He Interviewer thought it was time the mainspring of such a superb event should be introduced to the Club and share some thoughts with us..


Talk about your early memories and athletic experiences.
        I was born in Manchester in April 1940 and spent most of my early life looking out at the world whizzing by from a cycle sidecar as my Dad and Mum were very keen cyclists. A little later I remember being ' dropped off the back' of club runs and suffering 'the bonk' (it had a different meaning then). On reaching the age of eleven, I was lucky enough to get a place at a grammar school about 12 miles away and used to ride my bike there and back every day rain or shine through the cars and buses, murderers, rapists etc. (Parents were tough back then). As a consequence, my little legs developed muscles and joints adapted to circular motion and the school cross country was absolute purgatory as I minced along behind.

        Eventually, in my late teens, bonking (of any sort) disappeared and I set out to make my mark in the history books of sprinting on the steep!y banked track at the Reg Harris Stadium. The high point of my career was to be told after one rather rough race by the then British Sprint Champion that if I tried that trick again he would elbow me out onto the grass. Around this time I faced the big questions that all athletes have to face. Do you have talent? Are you prepared to make the necessary sacrifices to get to the top? My answer then has been a great comfort to me ever since. Of course I had the talent to get to the top but being an extremely well balanced individual, I decided that the sacrifices would be too great and therefore generously let others more needy of the adulation of the public to take my place on the podium. I recommend this formula to anyone whose times are not too hot.

        An extension of this philosophy is dabbling. This is the opposite of specialisation. A dabbler has a go at everything and is probably not very good at anything but he (or she) has experienced enough to admire the experts in their fields and to enjoy the pleasures of each sport without having to devote their entire free time to training and practice. Hence cross training is the way I like to keep fit. I enjoy mountain biking, road biking, hill walking and hill running with none of it carried to what us dabblers would call excess but enough to try to stave off death a bit longer. (Us older members are not just doing it for fun, we are running away from the even older guy with the long white beard and the scythe). Training can be both fun and life preserving for us dabblers.

        When it comes to business, the dabbler is at a disadvantage to the full professional unless he is running a small business where the ability to do a wide variety of things reasonably well is much more important than some outstanding strength. I was lucky enough to be in at the start of a small heating and ventilation business and help it to grow to become a national company employing 200 people. Selling that provided the means to indulge a retirement devoted to more dabbling in small business but this time in electronics design and manufacture rather than in a
service industry but the jury is still out on whether dabbling is really good for me or the business. (Small businesses have all the problems and challenges of big business but intensified by lack of staff, training, cash, premises, credit etc; it does not make for a particularly restful retirement).


I)o you read a lot?

        I do read a lot of books, mainly paperbacks and would like to recommend a few good reads that may not have crossed your path yet: The Bridge by Ian Banks; Oscar and Lucinda by Peter Carey; Other Peoples Trades by Primo Levi; All the Trouble in the World by P J O'Rourke; The War of Don Emanuel's Nether Parts by Louis de Bernieres; One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marques; The Black Sea by Neal Ascherson; and for scientists: The Odd Book of Data by R Houwink (out of print but obtainable second hand); The Waite Group's Fractal Creations by T Wegner and M Peterson (needs a computer); Surely You're Joking Mr Feynman by Richard P Feynman (a genius whose IQ did not prevent him being a fun loving dabbler too).



Why hill running as well as all the other things you do?

        I think a necessary part of a satisfying life comes from exercising both body and mind together and this is something that hill running does so much better than almost any other sport. These days, computers and TV have resulted in a broad understanding of the how the mind and body operates but I am not sure if it is generally appreciated how much brain power is required to run in the hills. There is no routine actuation of muscles as occurs in cycling or road runming. In hill running the eyes have to scan ahead, assessing and measuring distances and heights for the next few footfalls, the dynamics of the bodies motion have to be factored in, muscles have to be instructed and feedback from the present footfall assessed whilst data is pulled from the short term memory for the next step to maintain the dynamic balance and fit the terrain. That is an astronomical task for the mind and to the extent that in downhill running, the limits are probably imposed by IQ and not by physical factors. There is no doubt that hill running is the most comprehensive and natural mind/body exercise that we can ever take and it has the added advantages that we are designed to do it and there is none of the damaging repetitive pounding that comes from road running on hard even surfaces.



What about The Race?

        The Scottish Islands Peaks Race has obviously been an event that I have helped to organise for some time now and my reasons are somehow tied up with the above thinking. I like the idea of people learning about other sports that they would not normally encounter and I know that many yachtsmen and runners have taken up the other sport alongside their main one. But my main motivation is to ensure that I can continue to compete in it because despite the many years I have done the race it is always different, always a serious challenge and always great fun. Sailing into the night off Duart and watching the stars and the phosphorescence, seeing the sun rise on the Paps of Jura, battling round the Mull of Kintyre, timing the drop-offs and pick-ups and finally arriving shattered at Troon are magical memories. Each year I look forward to the race. Its an experience that I can't wait to repeat; like any addict, I am hooked.



Have you had any life-threatening experiences sailing or running?

        Like most of us, I am an adrenaline addict and so most of my most memorable experiences have been when this has been at a peak; high speed sailing in big seas, capsizing a 30ft catamaran at night in the North Sea in October followed (hours later) by surfing in on big waves - four of us in an eight foot rubber dinghy. Rubber reminds me of my first (and probably last) bungy jump off a railway bridge in New Zealand and also of pulling the tail of a 12 ft shark
in a cave 80 ft down in the Maldives. I will always remember running out of petrol in my microlight 100 ft above the bottleworks at Kinghorn (flying with a plaster still on my leg broken in a previous crash) and on another occasion rigging the wing wrong so that it went up Ok but would not come down without going unstable. Nowadays I get a big kick out of snowboarding or sailing flat out on my sail board.

        There are obviously serious risks associated with most of these activities and it is certainly true that like most of us, I could have been fatally unlucky many times. But perhaps there is another side to running a life of risk which may not he appreciated by the safety first school; if we survive pushing our luck (and analyse what happened), we become good at judging risk. This has had great benefits for me in business where guessing right is the key to success. But there is no need to justify risk taking in this way; we do it because we enjoy it and without the element of risk, there would not be the same spice to the adventure. The pleasure is to accept the risk and to overcome it by skill and experience etc or to recognise that the risk level is becoming too high and get out before it is too late.



Have you any injury or health problems?

        I have suffered from some stress induced problems and after successfully trying meditation, I realised that regular physical activity also had the same relaxing effect but had the added advantage that it kept you fit as well. Which leads me on to my adrenaline theory: We were evolved in past times when life was much more physical and with a fair bit of kill or be killed. Evolution led to the development of a boost drug for the fight or flight situations and which we now call adrenaline. It is important to appreciate that evolution is completely blind, there would have been some individuals who secreted adrenaline almost constantly and others who just got a boost when needed and developed a switch off mechanism. The ones who had an adrenaline switch off mechanism survived best and became our ancestors because constant high levels of adrenaline led to poor immune response, poor social interactions, degraded reasoning and poor sleep patterns. These effects meant that the adrenaline addicts of yore did not perform too well in the mating game in comparison with their more relaxed competition. So the ability to switch off the adrenaline has got obvious survival value and if you can turn it off as soon as it is no longer required, you were more likely to pass your genes on to the next generation. The next question is what signals the switch off mechanism? The most likely signal is the 'cessation of physical activity'. Mother nature gave us only one feeling for two quite different conditions; mental and physical tiredness. That is because in our evolutionary past, hard physical work also involved hard mental work (as in hill running) hence 'tired' described things nicely. Nowadays, a hard day at the office can mean high levels of adrenaline and feelings of tiredness which actually requires physical activity to resolve rather than the feet up in front of the TV that the vast majority of tired office workers use.

        But this is preaching to the converted. Most runners know that a run after work is the best way to lose that tired but edgy feeling induced by mental stress and high adrenaline levels. I had to learn the hard way by being hospitalised with a stress related condition before feeling my way back to health by using regular physical training.

        So I am sure that hill running is the nicest and most natural way to keep both body and mind in the best possible condition.



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